June 19, 2008
When will real estate lenders start mortgage loan balance reductions?
Lori writes in:
Richard,
When do you think the banks/servicers will start to reduce the principlebalances on mortgages?The Real Estate market is only getting worse, and it seems it wouldbehoove everyone involved if they (the lenders) would start reducingmortgage balances, instead of foreclosure.
Good question, Lori.
A mortgage principal reduction or mortgage loan reduction happens when a lender says "you can stay in your house. Your mortgage balance will be cut from $300,000 to $200,000."
I have heard of some principal reductions being done. In one case, several thousand were done by one loan servicer in particular.
I don't know why they were done.
But I expect them to become more common eventually.
Just not yet.
Why? Because lenders are not the people you and I deal with on our mortgage. Those as you know are servicers of mortgage loans. The loans have been originated and sold off to large trusts that each hold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of mortgages.
These trusts are the noteholders and they make the decisions for what happens to a mortgage that is in their portfolio.
So you have the servicers of the loans who are collecting fees for servicing the loan. And the noteholders who may be in the UK, or in the Middle East, or Wall Street.
It is a situation that results in very slow progress in mortgage short sales, very slow progress in loan modifications, very slow progress in adjusting in any direction.
We are seeing short sales take 3 or 4 months, sometimes longer. A short sale can be done even if you are on time with your payments. A loan modification usually requires you to be late with payments. From what I've heard, a principal reduction has only been available for people who didn't pay their mortgage. I don't know the other ingredients to a successful principal reduction and I doubt anyone does.
So should you wait for your loan balance to be adjusted? I wouldn't hold my breath.
How to tell if you qualify for a loan modification
I speak to a lot of folks who have put off the inevitable. Today I spoke to someone paying $4000 per month in mortgage payments and their income is maybe $6000 or $7000 per month at best. That is too much of a payment. They may get that payment modified by the lender but to do so, they must meet the test:
Add up all your monthly debt payments. Minimum payments on credit cards, car payments, that type of thing. Don't include things like utility bills or medical bills.
Add up the mortgage payment you are hoping the loan company can adjust down to. If you owe $600,000, they aren't going to give you a loan of $2000 per month. A good rule today would be figure on a 6% fully amortizing 30 year mortgage payment on your balance as the loan payment you could achieve.
Add up insurance and taxes as a monthly payment.
If the total is 50% of your gross income, or less, you may be eligible for a loan modification. If the total is greater than 50%, then you won't be eligible for one.
Remember, I am just some Guy on the Internet. Don't listen to me and don't depend upon what I say. I wish you luck and I'll talk soon.
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7 Comments on When will real estate lenders start mortgage loan balance reductions? »
June 19, 2008
slater martin @ 8:17 am:
I need the List for Private Money!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anita @ 9:34 am:
Can the credit card companies still come after you legally if you just make smaller payments than the amount they request each month?
Dawn in AZ @ 10:18 am:
I talked to my loan company(Aurora Loan Service) yesterday about a reduction in principle. They said that it is a question that is on the table, but they haven't got the green light yet. I asked if this was a possibility in the near future, but they couldn't say. Even if the do get the green light, I am afraid it won't help me. The home I need to get out from under is not my primary residence and I am finding a lot of options are not applicable because of that.
Richard Geller @ 2:56 pm:
The credit card companies can come after you if you breach your agreement with them. But very few times do they really litigate. Mostly they threaten.
regards
–Richard
September 17, 2008
marie @ 3:16 am:
Need help
marie @ 3:17 am:
can I ask my bank to do a principle reduction? Emc and Countrywide.
Very few banks are agreeing to them. So I wouldn't waste my time. Except if there was gross violations of law when you got your loan. There are always situations where lenders may agree to principal reductions. According to a recent New York Times article, fewer than 2% of loan modifications in California involved principal reductions. That is my experience as well.
warmly
–Richard
October 23, 2008
Maria @ 4:29 pm:
I need to know what banks are doing principle reductions and How to go about it. Will IndyMac,Emc,Countrywide,Bank of America or chase do this principle reduction Loans. If any one know please write to me. Thanks
The FDIC took over IndyMac bank and are slowly making offers to all delinquent customers trying to get them to stay in their house. Bank of America recently agreed to do loan mods for houses in a more streamlined fashion. However, principal reductions remain very rare. I don't see anyone doing many of these.
warmly
–Richard